Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/10/1999 09:25 AM Senate FIN

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GENERAL SUBJECT(S):                                                                                                             
SB 83 SUPPLEMENTAL/CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 72 CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGET RESERVE FUND                                                                                        
      APPROPRIATION                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in extended log note format.  Tapes                                                            
and handouts will be on file with the Senate Finance Committee through                                                          
the 21st Legislative Session, contact 465-2618.  After the 21st                                                                 
Legislative session they will be available through the Legislative                                                              
Library at 465-3808.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Time Meeting Convened: 9:25 a.m.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Tape(s):  SFC-99 #51, Side A (000 - 305)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Senator Parnell                                                                                                                 
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Senator Adams                                                                                                                   
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Senator Torgerson                                                                                                               
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Senator P. Kelly                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley                                                                                                                  
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Senator Green                                                                                                                   
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Senator Leman                                                                                                                   
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Senator Phillips                                                                                                                
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Senator Wilken                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT:  ANNALEE MCCONNELL, Director, Office of Management                                                                
and Budget; DAN SPENCER, Chief Budget Analyst, Office of Budget                                                                 
and Budget; SHARON BARTON, Director, Division of Administrative                                                                 
Services, Department of Administration; ALISON ELGEE, Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner, Department of Administration; BARBARA BRINK, Director,                                                            
Public Defender Agency; JIM HAUCK, Fiscal Analyst, Division of                                                                  
Legislative Finance; aides to members and other members of the                                                                  
Legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
VIA TELECONFERENCE:  PAT POLAND, Director, Division of Municipal                                                                
and Regional Assistance, Department of Commerce and Regional Affairs                                                            
from Anchorage.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LOG                                                                                                                             
SPEAKER                                                                                                                         
DISCUSSION                                                                                                                      
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Co-chair Parnell                                                                                                                
Convened the meeting at approximately 9:25                                                                                      
a.m.                                                                                                                            
Said the committee would discuss CSSB
83(FIN), work draft "D"                                                                                                         
There was no response to public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Annalee McConnell                                                                                                               
Director, Office of Management and Budget                                                                                       
was invited to join the committee.  She was                                                                                     
asked by Co-chair Parnell to explain any                                                                                        
comments to the work draft.                                                                                                     
She said the biggest concern was for the                                                                                        
Western Alaska Fisheries Disaster.                                                                                              
The $7 million Federal funds available                                                                                          
would help provide jobs in Western Alaska.                                                                                      
This would alleviate some of the problems                                                                                       
for the past two years' disasters.                                                                                              
Some technical corrections need to be                                                                                           
worked out with staff.                                                                                                          
Another concern was the Department of                                                                                           
Corrections, probation officers and prison                                                                                      
beds in Arizona.                                                                                                                
Cook Inlet Pretrial Facility staffing was                                                                                       
also a concern.                                                                                                                 
She indicated that this matter could be                                                                                         
adjusted throughout the year.  It would not                                                                                     
help with the probation officer status but                                                                                      
would help with the beds in Arizona.                                                                                            
With reference to the Southeast Disaster                                                                                        
they are working to get more Federal funds.                                                                                     
If this does not work out they will be back                                                                                     
before the Legislature for funding.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Parnell                                                                                                                
It was his understanding that if the                                                                                            
Federal funds were not available the matter                                                                                     
could be revisited with the Legislature,                                                                                        
however, he would make no commitment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams                                                                                                                   
Asked if this included all projects for the                                                                                     
Southeast Disaster for Federal funds?                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Parnell                                                                                                                
Said it did not include trails.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman                                                                                                                   
With reference to the Southeast projects                                                                                        
some were not funded by the Federal funds.                                                                                      
Was this true?                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Annalee McConnell                                                                                                               
Would need the Department of Transportation                                                                                     
to respond.  There were some funds the                                                                                          
Federal government would respond to, but                                                                                        
only if the Federal funds were available.                                                                                       
At present, that pot is empty.  There are                                                                                       
certain costs, in addition, that the                                                                                            
Federal funding will not cover.  This is                                                                                        
based on some Federal policy, wherein they                                                                                      
choose not to fund some projects.                                                                                               
However, if they do not get the required                                                                                        
funds from the Federal government then they                                                                                     
will be back before the Legislature.                                                                                            
With reference to the Public Defender                                                                                           
Agency she felt that the money was                                                                                              
necessary to meet their demands and is a                                                                                        
concern to them that their funding would be                                                                                     
cut.                                                                                                                            
She is satisfied with the work that has                                                                                         
been done between her and the committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Parnell                                                                                                                
Advised the committee that Pat Poland,                                                                                          
Director, Division of Municipal and                                                                                             
Regional Assistance, Department of Commerce                                                                                     
and Regional Affairs was on line via                                                                                            
teleconference from Anchorage to answer any                                                                                     
questions.  Also, if there were any                                                                                             
questions for Barbara Brink, PDA, she was                                                                                       
present.  There being no questions for Mr.                                                                                      
Poland and Ms. Brink, Co-chair Parnell                                                                                          
asked if there were any questions for any                                                                                       
other members of the Administration that                                                                                        
were present.  There were no further                                                                                            
questions from any committee members.                                                                                           
Next, for planning purposes, he said they                                                                                       
would wait for the House Bill to be                                                                                             
reported out and then reach this committee                                                                                      
by Friday.  He announced they would take up                                                                                     
amendments at that time.  The work draft                                                                                        
version "D" to SB 83 now before the                                                                                             
committee was the one they would address                                                                                        
with reference to any amendments.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman                                                                                                                   
With regards to the Office of Management                                                                                        
and Budget's comment to the Public Defender                                                                                     
Agency, he asked if the increase in                                                                                             
caseload was due to child protection                                                                                            
caseload.  He said he would be receptive to                                                                                     
see if it could be narrowed to only the                                                                                         
child protection caseload.  He stated that                                                                                      
this was the first time he had heard that                                                                                       
this was the reason for the increase in                                                                                         
their caseload.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Annalee McConnell                                                                                                               
Said there were a host of other reasons                                                                                         
that the caseload had increased in the                                                                                          
Public Defender's office.  A supplemental                                                                                       
has always been needed to help them get                                                                                         
through the year.  This was a choice made                                                                                       
by the Legislature.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Barbara Brink                                                                                                                   
Director, Public Defender Agency said she                                                                                       
had a few statistics.  In FY97, they had                                                                                        
eight hundred ninety-two child protection                                                                                       
cases; in FY98 over thirteen hundred child                                                                                      
protection cases.  In FY 99, so far, they                                                                                       
have had approximately twelve hundred                                                                                           
child protection cases.  She will provide                                                                                       
further data to the committee regarding                                                                                         
their caseload.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams                                                                                                                   
Asked if packet of amendments would be                                                                                          
distributed to the committee members.  Some                                                                                     
of the amendments have been submitted for                                                                                       
areas outside of his district.  He                                                                                              
referred, for example, to the Harborview                                                                                        
facility in Kasilof.  He hoped this project                                                                                     
and others would be considered.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Parnell                                                                                                                
All amendments will be up for                                                                                                   
consideration; the committee was just                                                                                           
waiting for the House to pass out their                                                                                         
version of the supplemental request.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Annalee McConnell                                                                                                               
Referred to the cash flow situation and                                                                                         
possible projections.  They are finding                                                                                         
that the pattern of deposits in and out of                                                                                      
the State treasury is tracking with the                                                                                         
spreadsheet.  There is an approximate                                                                                           
three-day lag in terms of when payments are                                                                                     
coming into the State.  The Administration                                                                                      
has defined what would happen if the                                                                                            
supplemental bill were not to pass. They                                                                                        
have identified which accounts would be                                                                                         
swept first.                                                                                                                    
With reference to the oil industry and                                                                                          
production drops, there will be                                                                                                 
approximately a $60 million deficit.                                                                                            
April first will see the official spring                                                                                        
forecast.  It was necessary for the                                                                                             
Legislature to stick with their schedule to                                                                                     
assure the public there was no lack of                                                                                          
funds.  This would preclude taking any                                                                                          
dramatic action for this fiscal year.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams                                                                                                                   
"When will we run out of cash?"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Annalee McConnell                                                                                                               
Said it would be approximately be the first                                                                                     
of May.                                                                                                                         
Will need to revisit this matter before the                                                                                     
Legislature adjourns.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams                                                                                                                   
$425 million dollars needed for this fiscal                                                                                     
year?                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Annalee McConnell                                                                                                               
$485 million needed.  Will provide update                                                                                       
for the committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Parnell                                                                                                                
Asked the committee members to arrange                                                                                          
their schedules so that they could meet                                                                                         
Friday afternoon in order to prevent                                                                                            
meeting Friday evening with regards to the                                                                                      
supplemental.  At this time they will try                                                                                       
to complete dealing with amendments.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams                                                                                                                   
Asked what were the plans if the bill took                                                                                      
three days in the House?                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Parnell                                                                                                                
Has scheduled Saturday for a meeting if                                                                                         
necessary.  Asked members to set aside time                                                                                     
after floor session on Friday at                                                                                                
approximately noon to deal with amendments.                                                                                     
He noted that this meeting would be after a                                                                                     
lunch break.                                                                                                                    
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ADJOURNMENT:  Co-chair Parnell adjourned                                                                                        
the meeting at approximately 9:47 a.m.,                                                                                         
tape number 51, Side A, log #305.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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